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Post by Mrs Parker on Apr 13, 2008 17:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by lauren on Apr 13, 2008 20:27:00 GMT -5
It reminds me of some of the dresses in the Count of Monte Cristo :-) It's very pretty, and yes I think it will be fine for a ball gown. I would find some matching trimmings, maybe gold, to further embellish it. :-)
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Post by cosmoblue on Apr 14, 2008 11:58:37 GMT -5
I am not really sure what it is about that fabric that makes me think it is not quite right to me. I think that my personal taste is saying no to the color and the visual quality I don't have any research to say that that is wrong. I am not sure about the embroidered all over pattern for evening historically. Meaning that I haven't seen any. I know that people used sari fabric for evening gowns, but that would have been with an elaborate border design. I will look through my images and see what I can find.
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Post by Mme de Beaufort on Apr 14, 2008 12:53:58 GMT -5
I agree... border prints sure... all-over prints for evening wear, I dunno; unless it's a subtle tone on tone look.
It's a stunning fabric though. But printed gold as opposed to embroidered gold...? I'm having a hard time with that. Maybe the white silk would work better than the coloured ones. It's more subtle.
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Post by Mrs Parker on Apr 14, 2008 13:39:40 GMT -5
It was the white I was pondering. I have a silk sari that I've considered using but it's very sheer and I may have to starch the daylights out of it to sew it then wash the starch out. Jumping decades is not as easy as it looks.  Thank you for the input, ladies. |
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Post by Val on Apr 16, 2008 11:44:21 GMT -5
With no historical research, I would first say, go for it. On reading the responses, I wasn't sure but I'd swear I'd seen something similar in pattern, and maybe the color. *Love the color!* So I continuted reading posts on this group, and lo and behold, came across the link to this photo locutus.ucr.edu/~cathy/rd/rd10.html Sure looks like a similar pattern on the one on the left. I also saw a painting someone posted on the sleeveless spencer thread, with a dress in a similar color. So, cross the two, and why not? I sure would. |
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Post by cosmoblue on Apr 16, 2008 13:18:55 GMT -5
The white is much less wrong to me than the other colors. I had assumed that you were talking about the blue since that was the largest image at the top of the page. So I continuted reading posts on this group, and lo and behold, came across the link to this photo locutus.ucr.edu/~cathy/rd/rd10.html Sure looks like a similar pattern on the one on the left. I also saw a painting someone posted on the sleeveless spencer thread, with a dress in a similar color. So, cross the two, and why not? I sure would. I think that there are some key differences in the fabric on the website and the fabric of the gown. The first being that the gown is very light and sheer with embroidery and the fabric online is opaque and heavy looking it also looks much stiffer than it ought to for historical accuracy. It may be much different in person though. The second thing that makes me question the online fabric is the design and scale of the motif. The online fabric looks very tight and dense and the paisleys seem very close together though the site doesn't give any reference of scale. Also the paisleys themselves are very tight and closed. The gown is a floral that is very open and delicate. This is of course coming from only 6 months worth of research into the period. I am still looking for an image that might change my mind. That being said there are far worse choices that you could make. It is personal taste. It just depends on how important accuracy is to you, and whether or not you feel you need to be able to document every choice that you make. I am OCD and need that, but many other people aren't like me. If you add a nice border at the hem and it absolutely passable for period. |
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Post by Mrs Parker on Apr 16, 2008 15:26:53 GMT -5
With no historical research, I would first say, go for it. On reading the responses, I wasn't sure but I'd swear I'd seen something similar in pattern, and maybe the color. *Love the color!* So I continuted reading posts on this group, and lo and behold, came across the link to this photo locutus.ucr.edu/~cathy/rd/rd10.html Sure looks like a similar pattern on the one on the left. I also saw a painting someone posted on the sleeveless spencer thread, with a dress in a similar color. So, cross the two, and why not? I sure would. I really like the dress in the center. It's a little early. If I made something like it with fewer gathers in front, would it work better for 1810ish? I may just go with the sari. It's sheer enough. Would that style of sleeve be appropriate for an 1810 ball dress? I wish I had more time to do research. All I seem to get done is bonnet research. |
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Post by Mrs Parker on Apr 16, 2008 15:37:14 GMT -5
T That being said there are far worse choices that you could make. It is personal taste. It just depends on how important accuracy is to you, and whether or not you feel you need to be able to document every choice that you make. I am OCD and need that, but many other people aren't like me. If you add a nice border at the hem and it absolutely passable for period. I should hire you to do my research. LOL I'm very concerned about accuracy, to the point of being really annoying. LOL |
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Post by cosmoblue on Apr 16, 2008 15:40:32 GMT -5
I really like the dress in the center. It's a little early. If I made something like it with fewer gathers in front, would it work better for 1810ish? I may just go with the sari. It's sheer enough. Would that style of sleeve be appropriate for an 1810 ball dress? I wish I had more time to do research. All I seem to get done is bonnet research. The sleeve is a bit too long or a lot too short for 1810. Iht gown in the middle would need much less fabric all around to be appropriate for 1810 and you probably wouldn't want that much of a train if any at all though they were done. For a quick look at 1810ish fashions: hal.ucr.edu/~cathy/year/1808.htmlhal.ucr.edu/~cathy/year/1809.htmlhal.ucr.edu/~cathy/year/1810.htmlhal.ucr.edu/~cathy/year/1811.htmlhal.ucr.edu/~cathy/year/1812.htmlYou can see on the 1810 page the inspiration for my gown. |
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Post by Mrs Parker on Apr 16, 2008 17:28:31 GMT -5
I'll be busy for weeks with all of this. Thanks, Cosmo.  |
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Where so many hours have been spent in convincing myself that I am right, is there not some reason to fear I may be wrong? ~ Jane Austen 