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Post by Goblin, esq. on Mar 11, 2008 16:26:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mme de Beaufort on Mar 11, 2008 16:39:42 GMT -5
That back looks quite familiar. Like the pattern from Patterns of Fashion by Janet Arnold.
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Post by dawnluckham on Mar 13, 2008 11:46:56 GMT -5
Steph, that is basically what this pattern company does. As we all know, not everyone is comfortable with the scaling up a graphed pattern idea. She does it for the purchaser – creating a pattern for the modern sewist with modern sizing from the research offered by people like Janet Arnold. I’m trying to figure out why this pattern is a “Morning dress”  It simply looks like a dress to me, which could be interpreted as a day dress or an evening dress depending on the fabrics chosen. |
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Post by cosmoblue on Mar 13, 2008 13:17:57 GMT -5
I’m trying to figure out why this pattern is a “Morning dress” It simply looks like a dress to me, which could be interpreted as a day dress or an evening dress depending on the fabrics chosen. It is a day dress as it said on the pattern image. I believe Chris typed morning instead of day by mistake? He is a gentleman and perhaps he forgot or didn't realize that ladies were expected to change their clothes from morning to day gowns. As for why the pattren shows it as a Day Dress instead of just a dress I assume that is because it is very plain and doesn't have any embroidery on it like the evening gown pattern would. |
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Post by Goblin, esq. on Mar 13, 2008 16:00:08 GMT -5
It clearly says "Day Dress" on the picture of the pattern. It also says "Regency Morning Dress" on the Reconstructing History web page, from which I, in my eagerness to be helpful, cut and pasted the text without more than a cursory glance at what it said....
As a gentleman, I have no idea if there is any significant difference between a morning dress and a day dress, or if that was a later Victorian distinguishing characteristic. :-)
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Post by cosmoblue on Mar 13, 2008 16:30:09 GMT -5
It clearly says "Day Dress" on the picture of the pattern. It also says "Regency Morning Dress" on the Reconstructing History web page, from which I, in my eagerness to be helpful, cut and pasted the text without more than a cursory glance at what it said.... Silly website!  |
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Post by maudelynn on Mar 14, 2008 13:29:28 GMT -5
I pre ordered this a few weeks ago, along with the Riding Habit! I am most eager to get both!!
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Post by cosmoblue on Mar 14, 2008 21:32:14 GMT -5
It clearly says "Day Dress" on the picture of the pattern. It also says "Regency Morning Dress" on the Reconstructing History web page, from which I, in my eagerness to be helpful, cut and pasted the text without more than a cursory glance at what it said.... Silly website! I was looking in my new Patterns of Fashion book by Janet Arnold that I got as a birthday gift from my sister. It shows that gown almost exactly and describes it as morning dress. |
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Post by Val on Mar 14, 2008 21:39:05 GMT -5
I've decided I'm going to order that pattern as a birthday present for myself. I love the front bodice on the white dress, and it will be a day dress for me.
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Post by dawnluckham on Mar 16, 2008 14:15:20 GMT -5
Maudelynn, I somehow have my doubts about pleating...  sorry. I might be wrong though. This original dress is gathered across the front. The one you're (maybe?) thinking about is a bib front or "high stomacher" (Janet Arnold's choice of term) on the same pages in her book. This pattern is for a back closing gown with a gathered front. I can’t be certain as she doesn’t have much of a description with the patterns, but the “morning/day dress” pattern MIGHT be the high stomacher dress. The pleating for the bib front (on the high stomacher dress) isn't complicated to do though. The pleats are even on grain (as opposed to bias). The bib itself is cut on the bias. Have you ever done tucking before? From the graphed drawing in the book, take a 14 inch high piece of fabric (full width of the fabric) and start making tucks as you desire. The original has 1/16” tucks done four or five together and then a space and then four or five together and a space. Take the tucks until you have a 14” x 14” piece of fabric. Then cut the bib out on the bias of the fabric. The bib is 3.5 to 4 inches high and 10.5 to 11 inches long (these patterns don’t include seam allowance so you have to add that yourself. |
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Post by cosmoblue on Mar 16, 2008 14:24:19 GMT -5
Maudelynn, I somehow have my doubts about pleating... sorry. I might be wrong though. This original dress is gathered across the front. The one you're (maybe?) thinking about is a bib front or "high stomacher" (Janet Arnold's choice of term) on the same pages in her book. This pattern is for a back closing gown with a gathered front. I can’t be certain as she doesn’t have much of a description with the patterns, but the “morning/day dress” pattern MIGHT be the high stomacher dress. The pleating for the bib front (on the high stomacher dress) isn't complicated to do though. The pleats are even on grain (as opposed to bias). The bib itself is cut on the bias. Have you ever done tucking before? From the graphed drawing in the book, take a 14 inch high piece of fabric (full width of the fabric) and start making tucks as you desire. The original has 1/16” tucks done four or five together and then a space and then four or five together and a space. Take the tucks until you have a 14” x 14” piece of fabric. Then cut the bib out on the bias of the fabric. The bib is 3.5 to 4 inches high and 10.5 to 11 inches long (these patterns don’t include seam allowance so you have to add that yourself. Dawn did you mean to post this in reply to another thread? Maudelynn, does not appear to have mentioned anything about pleating anywhere in this thread. |
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Post by maudelynn on Mar 16, 2008 14:27:56 GMT -5
Maudelynn, I somehow have my doubts about pleating... sorry. I might be wrong though. This original dress is gathered across the front. The one you're (maybe?) thinking about is a bib front or "high stomacher" (Janet Arnold's choice of term) on the same pages in her book. This pattern is for a back closing gown with a gathered front. I can’t be certain as she doesn’t have much of a description with the patterns, but the “morning/day dress” pattern MIGHT be the high stomacher dress. The pleating for the bib front (on the high stomacher dress) isn't complicated to do though. The pleats are even on grain (as opposed to bias). The bib itself is cut on the bias. Have you ever done tucking before? From the graphed drawing in the book, take a 14 inch high piece of fabric (full width of the fabric) and start making tucks as you desire. The original has 1/16” tucks done four or five together and then a space and then four or five together and a space. Take the tucks until you have a 14” x 14” piece of fabric. Then cut the bib out on the bias of the fabric. The bib is 3.5 to 4 inches high and 10.5 to 11 inches long (these patterns don’t include seam allowance so you have to add that yourself. Oh ! Well, that sounds kind of easy  I was wrong about the dress I meant, the book I am looking at is Costume in Detail, page 95, the dress with the tiny tucks. I shall look at my Janet Arnold and see if it is the same. I have never done tucking, but want to learn so I can do an en fourreau back on one of my over dresses, like the transition fashions had in the very late 1700's! Thank you so much for your explanation!! I shall bookmark this thread! |
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Post by Mme de Beaufort on Mar 16, 2008 14:52:44 GMT -5
Dawn did you mean to post this in reply to another thread? Maudelynn, does not appear to have mentioned anything about pleating anywhere in this thread. Looks like she meant to post in the 'evening gown' post instead. |
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Post by maudelynn on Mar 16, 2008 18:27:28 GMT -5
Dawn did you mean to post this in reply to another thread? Maudelynn, does not appear to have mentioned anything about pleating anywhere in this thread. Looks like she meant to post in the 'evening gown' post instead. I found it YAY! |
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Post by Val on Mar 16, 2008 21:22:58 GMT -5
I just ordered mine, so I'll be looking forward to seeing it in a week or so. I really like the back on it.
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Post by dawnluckham on Mar 16, 2008 21:32:38 GMT -5
OOOoooops! (blush!) Yes! I posted in the wrong spot. I was flipping back and between the two when I was checking to see if this one was a bib front. I'm glad you all worked it out anyway. (pink cheeks now!) |
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Post by Val on Apr 2, 2008 18:24:33 GMT -5
I ordered this pattern on Mar 16. I've been chomping at the bit to play with it, but I hadn't received it yet. So I emailed them this morning, and was told it hadn't been shipped yet, but was scheduled for shipping tomorrow. They asked if I wanted it held up until I return from vacation? Heck no!! We're having our mail held at the PO, and I want it. Now. If I'm going to make this for Costume College, I need the 4 months left to work on it. Yes, I'm that slow.
Anyone else get their's yet?
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Post by maudelynn on Apr 8, 2008 11:53:53 GMT -5
I am a bit upset with the shipping, to be honest.
I ordered 2 patterns and I realised one would not be
available till mid March but...
The owner emailed me on the 25th of March and said the
patterns would go out that week and she would send me
the fed ex number. A week later I asked about a tracking number
and she said when Fed Ex got them to her she would get them
to me as they ship the patterns (?) directly. I emailed her again
a couple of days ago with no response.
At 70.00 for 2 patterns and shipping I am a bit anxious and would
like a bit more info.
Has anyone else had this issue with this company ?
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Post by The Major on Apr 8, 2008 11:58:39 GMT -5
I just ordered the RH818 - Regency Men's Great Coat pattern last week and it arrived 3 days later. Maybe it has something to do with the pattern that wasn't available at the time, perhaps its release is postponed?
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Post by dawnluckham on Apr 8, 2008 13:35:39 GMT -5
I've ordered from them in the past. I only have about three of their patterns as most of them are just sized up from book patterns I already have, and up until now they've mostly done periods I don't do. I've always had good, quick service from them.
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